High Stakes, High Rewards - Christopher Soffee

[00:00:00] I'm out there and you know a lot of people asking the questions you ask. Who is this guy? What does he do? How is he this happy all the time? Podcasting, hosting, filming, whatever. It's my favorite part of the week.

[00:00:07] You sit down, you have a real conversation and you learn a lot about people. Like I'm a big Vegas guy. I love gambling. I love the aura of Las Vegas. But a lot of these guys, they come and they want to like beat Vegas.

[00:00:15] You got to go in, understand that you can't beat them. If you do walk, if you go into Vegas, you make money, get the fuck out. You can control it. Go for it. What's popping everybody today? I'm here with Christo.

[00:00:28] And if you haven't seen this gentleman yet, then you're just not on the social. There's not popping on the digital print and you got to get onto his stuff. He's got such an interesting story.

[00:00:38] And today we're going to talk about how he's mastered the scene when it comes to gambling and he's found an angle in which he's made it profitable for himself. He's got a massive, massive network, not only with just hyper local people,

[00:00:52] but celebrities and people that have star status. He does what he wants, when he wants, how he wants to in the city. If he feels like something, he's going to do it and he's going to get it. And so much more we go on to talk about today.

[00:01:06] And thank you for gracing us with your presence and taking the time out of your day to sit with us. Always any time. Thank you. OK, listen, I find it extremely interesting how you came out of nowhere

[00:01:23] and now the whole city knows you not only knows you, but has a laugh with you on the socials, right? And is really able to understand, you know, who you are, right? For the present day without knowing a lot about your background.

[00:01:38] So, you know, I got so many questions for you today and I was really pumped up. I was telling I was telling I just have to kill it. But I know you don't drink. So yeah. And I was telling Christo before we came live today.

[00:01:48] I said, listen, I said, usually we film all four episodes in one day and we put out one a week. I said, but, you know, I kept seeing this guy on social media and I kept laughing and I keep engaging him like, you know, I need this guy.

[00:02:01] I need this guy in the podcast next week. We're going to put out a special edition. What would it cost is known for sitting down with real estate professionals? You're the furthest. You're the furthest thing from that, right?

[00:02:12] So this is this is a really cool spin off of what would it cost. But I was excited to do it. So I hit Maddie up and hit you up and said, let's put it together. Let's make it happen. Tell us a bowl who you are.

[00:02:22] Where you came from, why are you so awesome and vibrant and how you capture more importantly, how you captured the attention of the city in such a short period of time. Thank you for having me first of all. Yeah, I hope it was easy.

[00:02:37] I told you, let's do it. Let's do it. You said, yes, I like that. That's how I work. Yeah. We don't need to go through everyone to get a ship booked. Thanks for on this, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so thank you for having me on.

[00:02:48] It's a pleasure. We we met formally through Lil Moe, a nice little lunch with Lil Moe. Shout out Lil Moe. You're the best born and raised in Mississauga. OK, and I know five born and raised in Mississauga. My parents, my dad came from Lebanon.

[00:03:01] I got the hummus in the tabooly in me. I'm a Habibi. So so he gave me everything. He gave me my dad gave me everything. My mom gave me a lot to him. My dad gave me, you know, came from nothing.

[00:03:12] Just he hustled the grind gender or this that put himself to tuition by being the gender at the university and then wanted to be an engineer. His father died, took a different path. But those morals, those those those those those character, that loyalty, that respect.

[00:03:26] It's in my Instagram bio loyalty and respect is all I desire. It's just what I ask of people. It's what I give to people. So I think from being that kind of person inside, it's endeared me to everybody, right? And I'm obviously very positive.

[00:03:39] I'm very I'm out there and you know, a lot of people say who is asking the questions you ask, who is this guy? What does he do? How is he this happy all the time?

[00:03:49] How is he partying till 5 a.m. and up at 7 a.m. in the gym? I don't know, man. Like I have good genes. I guess I don't know my mom, my dad, my mom feeds me like a king.

[00:03:57] My dad, like I said, just he's still a rock star, almost 70. And he gave me everything. He just gives me that zest for life, right? So I mean, it's an open-ended question, but from within the fabric, the foundation is how I live my life every day

[00:04:13] as though it's my last. And I mean, there's a long story beyond that. I'm not 31. I'm getting up there in age. I'm still young, but I'm getting up there. I've been in the city kind of destroying it and making it my little,

[00:04:26] you know what, for like 15 years now, give or take. I was in the club a couple years young. We can talk about the clubs too. I know you used to be a part of that, but. But born and raised in Mississauga and naturally, you know,

[00:04:37] I did all my family stuff at University of Toronto, Mississauga for a couple years, then finished. Then finished, didn't get a degree because business started booming. And then I bought my condo, my first property in 2014. Right, York and Bremner, right between the Air Canada Center

[00:04:54] and and Roger Center. And then I just decided Toronto was my playground. And, you know, you got the sports, you got the entertainment, you got all that. It's just like a little place like New York City, maybe a little bit

[00:05:06] of a smaller, more tame, but it's like New York City. And when you start to navigate Toronto well, you can really, really make some great things happen. Networking, business. I think that's the most powerful thing about where I am today.

[00:05:20] And this podcast is a testament to the network. I don't really know you, but you heard about me and social media. And I know you and we did. Boom, now we're making things happen, right? Yeah.

[00:05:30] And we don't know where it's going to lead to in terms of business. I know you got this whole spark, shout out Spark Financial putting everything on for us. But it's just the power of the network, right? And every day is a new day and it's a new

[00:05:41] chance and a new opportunity to do something great in the world. That's how I wake up and I look at life. It's just every day is what are we going to do today? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a blessing. And you truly do.

[00:05:50] You do live every day like it's your last. I know that's a very generic statement and it sounds very cliche. But that's what I get from you. Like when I look at your socials and when I've been following along for

[00:06:00] the journey, I was like, this guy just gives her every day. He's laughing, he's smiling, he's betting, he's at Man was Al. He's with the boys. He's just he's out there, man. You know what I mean?

[00:06:12] And good on you, bro, because it's one thing to say it, appreciate it, understand that it should be done that way. But then it's a whole other ballgame to actually do it, right? And you do it, bro.

[00:06:24] Yeah, I like to think that everything lined up really well for me in my life. Right. I went through and I'll talk about them openly. A lot of struggles, a lot of, you know, mental, physical, financial, everything, we all go through that.

[00:06:35] And now at 30 plus, I feel like everything's just lining up perfectly. Financially, personally, you know, even physically, like I'm healthy. I'm happy. I'm waking up every day like, boom, let's go get it. What are we doing today? The podcast helped me a lot.

[00:06:51] It's given me a lot open a lot of doors for me. It's really given me that like zest that my original businesses, which I can discuss with you from the betting to real estate, everything else. It's they're nice. They're money makers, their cash flow, but they're not like

[00:07:06] like sitting and having a conversation with someone. Nowadays, it's on 100 with the podcasting and the production and social media. But this is like podcasting, hosting, filming, whatever. It's my favorite part of the week. It's like just you sit down, you have a real conversation

[00:07:20] and you learn a lot about people like you're going to learn a lot about me today the same way I learned about my guests when I film every week. It's just so powerful. And then, you know, we produce it and we send it out to people

[00:07:28] and the reels and everything. And we're, I always say, we're the disruptors. We're the people that are changing the way that the world views everyone else. I say that the Anthony and Ernesto and Moneybys Happiness and mine

[00:07:40] and everyone else's podcasts that are kind of circulating in the world today. We're the ones that are creating the content that people see every day when they open their phones. And people don't understand how hard like you have a marketing room,

[00:07:50] you have all these rooms in this office alone that like, yeah, they sit on their phone. You think, oh, that's nice to take a video, but it takes so much out of us. Right? It's a lot of work to get to the final result.

[00:08:00] I actually have an episode dropping today as well. So go watch that like and subscribe to the podcast. But yeah, like it's I think I feel like everything's lining up for me right now.

[00:08:10] Well, and I don't want to take over the pod, but no, this is all you can go ahead and ask ask away. Yeah. I mean, yeah, my cycle better. I like the party. I like to drink. You want to be asking? I know because I'll ask you directly

[00:08:27] because everyone has a story about alcohol, right? Yeah, I want yours quickly if you don't mind. Yeah, allow me to host a little bit here. OK, because I do every pod with Tequila and Shisha. That's basically my right Arabic.

[00:08:40] So I'll tell you mine, but I feel like I don't want to be insensitive. I'm not insensitive. Yeah, yeah, I'm a real one. Yeah. So if you could you tell me? Yeah, in a nutshell, bro, I was in the nightlife and entertainment hospitality industry for 15 plus years.

[00:08:52] Day in, day out, lived it, slept, eat, slept, breathe nightlife. So I was in my nightclubs. I was an owner, operator, promoter, and I was hosting all the time. And, you know, through that you build up a heavy tolerance for alcohol. I was a big, big drinker.

[00:09:07] I was a big, big partier. And I just I wanted out of that life because now I'm a family man. I'm a father of three and I everything I do, I'm an all or nothing character.

[00:09:16] Love it. So I was I'm good at whatever I put my head to. I was good at that. I was good at it. You're a good drinker. Long story short, I just I just couldn't manage to handle it in moderation. I didn't have it under control.

[00:09:30] He got out of hand. So I said, OK, I need to address this. So I just I arrested that addiction and moved on. Love that. Love that. Love that. Love that. But I'm asking. But I have nothing against it.

[00:09:40] I know. It's sitting in the room with you like a flask in my pocket. You go for it, Roy. It does nothing for me in regards to bother and and. That's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Just couldn't handle it. You look at your smile, your your your this.

[00:09:52] You look like you've got a good grasp on that part of your life. Now, I'm not going to lie. I would have loved to know the old you. And maybe I can get about at some point. We'll be hanging out that fucking chandelier right now.

[00:10:04] You might have Alex Dex. How do I like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now it's imparting together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure I'm sure. This is brother Sakla, everyone, the whole group. For me, I grew up like my grandfather and I

[00:10:15] from when I was like 12 years old, we're having scotch. And OK, like he was my guy. He passed about seven or eight years ago. But he was my guy, my mom's dad, actually. And we would just you'd call me to come over to scotch

[00:10:27] and we would just chat it up like podcast. So we were just two hours, three hours on a Saturday. We would just chalk it up and by the time we're done, we're two bottles deep. So yeah, you know, my dad would be there, my brothers.

[00:10:37] So that kind of was like you said, and grain did me in the beginning. And then so I have a high tolerance to but. Forgive me for saying this. I never really felt like it was abusing where it was because I was just in control always.

[00:10:51] Like, you know, I'm like, I never puke from alcohol. Like I've never had I've never like gone. I don't do stupid shit, right? I know my limit. I don't do drugs. Everyone knows that I'm straight like I drink tequila, soda, like it's fucking water.

[00:11:04] And I enjoy myself and I get to this point where I'm like, I'm happy and then that's it. Nice. Oh, I'll just dip out of Uber home or whatever. So good on you. Good kind of that kind of control. But some people don't.

[00:11:17] Right now, don't wake up and I'm like, oh, I need a drink. That's how I think, right? But for doing a day party, I wake up, I go to the day party and then we carry it on. But I am. Let me say this about alcohol.

[00:11:27] It's if you can control it, it's a gambling. It's like any vice in the world. Right. You can control it. Go for it. Yeah, you're good. Sure. But if you can't, like a lot of these guys, like I'm a big Vegas guy. OK, I'm obviously sports better.

[00:11:39] I love gambling. I love the aura of Las Vegas. But a lot of these guys, they come and they want to like beat Vegas and they want to make it their priority when they step on the casino. They want to like, I can beat them today.

[00:11:48] You got to go in and understand that you can't beat them. Right. If you do walk, if you go into Vegas, you make money, get the fuck out. Right. Or go spend the money on shit you enjoy. Yeah, like women, alcohol, whatever, whatever.

[00:12:00] Go have a night out, go to the club. But some people get so like enamored with like beating. I'm going to have that gene, that jealousy or whatever. Like I want to beat it's it's anything business or whatever. You can't you can't be like

[00:12:16] you got to do what you want to do. You got to do for yourself. Don't worry about other people. Jealousy and all these very inherent traits that are in us. Like people want to see you do good, but never better than them.

[00:12:25] It's a good old saying and I just want to see everybody win. Right. I don't want everyone to eat at my table. A lot of my friends, not that I've distanced from them, but I've went from a lot of good friends to many acquaintances

[00:12:38] because a lot of people, especially now, it's a good way to put it. I haven't heard that before. Yeah, especially don't mind. I'll ramble on. I'll ramble on. I'll go for it. But it's a very it's a very tasteful way to put it.

[00:12:49] Right. Like I went from a lot of friends to acquaintances. It's not like they're not part of my life anymore or fuck them kind of thing. It's their acquaintances. Yeah, right. Just invaluable at that level anymore. Right. I've never heard it that way. It's just nice.

[00:13:01] Yeah, I just think and I don't want to say I'm a celebrity by any means whatever, but I think with this kind of presence that I now have. And like, I'll tell you, Nick, to be honest with you up until a year ago,

[00:13:10] I was private, private on Instagram, private before I started the once I started the podcast, I said, I'm going to do the success for you. Right. Let's do it right. Let's just put ourselves out there. You know, everyone's always worried about the stuff, you know,

[00:13:19] you're wearing nice jewelry, you're wearing nice clothes, you listen to night, you worry about people seeing you and I wanted to rock. I kind of got over that when I realized social media is going to take over the

[00:13:27] world. Yeah. And we're going to be out there whether we want to or not. Like you can't really hide nowadays. Yeah. You know, you can't you can't hide from from the reality of life. So I just decided like if I'm going to go for this, right?

[00:13:39] I do put my everyone kind of knows before even all the social media and everything in the podcast, they knew who I was and I was out there, but I just was private. Like I was private on social media, Instagram. I was private on Snapchat.

[00:13:49] I was more of a private public guy because I showed my real life, but to the people that I wanted to show, like I would look at every request to follow. Do I know that person?

[00:13:57] If not, see you now it's like this is just a fucking crap shoot. So let's just open it up. Right. And so before like a year ago, I was private, but now it's like I've gained a network from from all ends, the the Bay Street guys

[00:14:11] to the club guys, hospitality guys to to everyone. And it's like everyone knows that I'm the funny, bald, wild, crazy guy that doesn't have a I say this with arrogantly. I don't have a mean boat in my body. I don't want to see anyone fail.

[00:14:25] I want to see everyone win and my best friends are the richest or the richest on the poorest of the poorest and I treat them the same. Yeah. Like I have people that I grew up with in Saugr that don't have much

[00:14:33] and people that are now on Bay Street that make ten million dollars a year and they're all my friends and I'll chop it up with them one day and chop it up with him one day because I just don't see like money

[00:14:41] doesn't make you like comes and goes money doesn't make you. You know, you need money to live this and that, whatever. But money doesn't make you. It's who you are, who you are as a person, right? My grandfather, my father, those those morals, those values,

[00:14:52] I always go back to that they're what made me who I am today. So I live a very I'm not. Afraid of anything. Not afraid of anything because I do believe that everything happens for a reason and God is great.

[00:15:06] Those more Catholic, you know, it's it's I go to church. I pray I I'm a good person deep down. I say that I can't even could argue that but whatever. I'm a good person. My exes will argue that, but I'm a good person deep down. They will.

[00:15:19] But you know, and everything that's like I said, everything that's happened in my life, I feel like blessed. I feel like God, it's blessed. And I always say my dad's approaching 70 and I've seen him slow down the last couple of years.

[00:15:29] But still we pay volleyball three hours every week on Tuesdays, almost 70 sets me. We spike. We have the best time ever. We drink, we party to bless life. We're living a great life. And so I just want to stay healthy. I want to stay happy. Yeah.

[00:15:40] I'll pod till I die. I love that fucking thing. It's like a little baby. I grew up from nothing now or, you know, taking steps up. Yeah. So we got to I told you, I said next week you're on mine,

[00:15:50] but this is this is great while we're here. But you ask me shit. I don't want to keep talking. No, no, no. This is amazing. I love I love the answers and how you elaborate on it. Now a lot of what OK, let's talk about the betting,

[00:16:01] for instance, right? So you're betting big, like the amounts that you're swinging like, bro, guys will go into fucking coma. I don't know for anything, but it's like I look at it on social. I'm like, and I'm like, I feel like watching the game for him. Yeah.

[00:16:16] Come on, let's go. You know what I mean? Like, let's get it. I want you to win kind of vibe, right? Because it's such a big of a throne, bro. Right. So like, I don't mean to poke and poke too deep,

[00:16:26] but like I'm going to here because I know that a lot of other people are probably thinking the same thing. Like how is it that you bet so big and you're so casual and cool about it? And you know, like you don't really get your panties

[00:16:39] in a bunch or get upset about it. And then you're back at it the very next day swinging those amounts. Like those are what people make annually, you know, in one bet. Like, what's up? So what's up is obviously didn't happen overnight, right?

[00:16:54] And I don't come from money. I don't have no trust fund. My dad was a salesman and and lived, he gave us everything, but I don't come from millions. To take it back to the original, original day, I'll never forget it.

[00:17:05] I have a lot of family in New Brunswick, Eastern Canada. And over there, betting was legal before even Ontario. It was it was a thing. You'd go to the corner store, you'd go $2 on six, seven teams and you bet, right?

[00:17:18] So when I was eight years old, eight years old, my cousin George who still he actually lives in Burlington now, but came from the East end. He said, let's go to the store and let's pick some teams. I don't know what the fuck we picked like six,

[00:17:31] seven teams, the first five one and the last two lost, but they lost one by one. And so that day I was hooked. Oh wow. The next day, this is the summertime, right? This is the summertime and beautiful New Brunswick,

[00:17:42] all my family's there, but next day we went same thing and we're doing $2, we're doing nothing like no, no, no. I did all that until I was like 14, 15. So that's six, seven years. From eight till 15 you were swinging. Every day, $2 a dollar, you get some heads,

[00:17:56] you get, but you don't, I'm going to school. 15, I made a deal with the convenience store up the street now I'm back in Toronto, Mississauga actually. I said, listen, I know you gotta be 18 to bet. Said my mom can come in here every day

[00:18:12] and just put the ticket through for me. I said, I'll give you a hundred bucks a month. This is like 15, 16 years ago. Give you a hundred bucks a month, I'm gonna come in, just put the ticket through pretend like I'm buying candy so the cameras don't see,

[00:18:24] put the ticket through for me, it saves my mom, I used to bicycle up to the corner store. And by 15 I started to get a hang of things. Okay. Like the sports betting business. Sure. So that went on for three years till I was legal 18

[00:18:37] and I started to make some decent money and then all the online stuff started to hit. Okay. Then people don't understand, now it's, all the big boys are in here, like MGM and Caesar and everything. So now it's like fully legal, full blown online,

[00:18:51] like the biggest companies in the world are here. But even back then it was legal but it was regulated outside of Canada. So we could still do everything we could do today but it was regulated by companies in London and Malta and Caribbean and stuff.

[00:19:03] So then I started navigating to the online world and then as technology grew, we got more data, more resources. I went to Vegas a lot. I learned the ropes of the entire industry, even dabbled with some consulting but didn't like that side of things

[00:19:18] but I just became an expert. I just honed my craft and I made all my mistakes I always say with $2 and $1 back in the younger years. And by the time I was like 21, 22, I had this whole business on lock.

[00:19:32] I know what was the right bet, what was the wrong bet, what was the sharp bet. I would pay and I still do today, pay information guys, consultants, handicappers, whatever it was to get the best information. And then I slowly but surely built my bankroll.

[00:19:45] I found that the crevices in the industry that were off and built like seven figure portfolio and then actually last year was my biggest year ever. Come on bro. Yeah, last year was my biggest year ever man. Million dollar games, multimillion dollar portfolio,

[00:20:03] crushing it, Madam was on Monday. We used this thing, million dollar Monday where we just, I'd make Peter, you know Peter, I knew Peter put the fucking games on Madam was on. The whole club's going crazy. I said, I don't go fuck.

[00:20:14] Changed the, if you had the frame TV, he has the frame TV. I said, I'm gonna air play the football game and I'm gonna go fucking crazy. Francesca gave me a particular soda that David bring me a shisha and let me fucking and everyone be around me partying

[00:20:27] and I'd just be zoned in on the game, right? This was like week three, week four we started. NFL and for 15 straight weeks I was just pounding it, pounding it. I got shot by like 930 right at halftime and I finished the second half

[00:20:38] and then when I lose I'd go, when I lose I'd go, people think I win all the time, I don't. I'm hitting like 65%, 60%. Sometimes NFL is probably my best sport and I'm just fucking and I'm just having the time of my life now

[00:20:51] and then I'm all, let me put it all together. So I'm Lebanese and so I told Peter, I'm like, we gotta do this Mediterranean Monday thing. We gotta bring some drummers. We gotta have some Arabic music. Like I gotta really turn this fucking thing all the way up.

[00:21:03] That was all for him. Yeah, pretty much. So you can watch his game and present some what he felt like. Yeah, the DJ is my best friend, Arabic guy, haddy, shout out to haddy, I love you. And the dancers are friends of mine.

[00:21:14] The drummers are all, everyone's connected to me. Yeah, it's your party. Basically my party, right? You just needed a place to do it. Don't think I'm not coming for a check every Monday Peter. I'm coming for a check. I'm a money guy. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, and so,

[00:21:25] and then I just made this like a dream world but thank God this Monday, every Monday this year was, I mean, I think we lost one or two. But even the one I lost, I still partied the night away because it's a reality of the industry.

[00:21:34] But yeah, long story short, learn your mistakes and any business. Learn your mistakes young, hone the craft, work hard like I'd have two, three hour days sometimes because I'm studying the lines and the analytics and all that fucking shit. That's, people don't understand.

[00:21:48] It's not just LeBron against Colick. It's not who's better. Yeah. The game is so intricate. The refs, the weather, if it's baseball or where did they go? What hotel did they stay in the night before? Where did they go out? You'll go that far.

[00:22:01] Buddy, I was partying with some of these NBA players till five, six in the morning on Saturday night and I know they have a 12 o'clock tip off. I do my own home work. I literally pour them shots, five, five, four AM last call in Toronto.

[00:22:12] I'd be partying with, I'm not gonna name names because I don't want them or whatever, but like they'd leave the club at six AM with us and I know they have to be at shooter on at 10 and they're drunk as fuck. It's just simple math.

[00:22:21] I know where they stay, where they stay, shame real hard, it's Carlton. I know all these things and either I pay someone to know, I know them myself because I'm in the city. So you gotta find an advantage. You gotta find an advantage. You gotta find a hook.

[00:22:32] And a lot of people, like you said, look at it and it's like, this guy's crazy. He must be psyched, he must be on drugs. But it's not about the dollar amount. Could be a hundred thousand, could be a million. If I have a hundred million dollar,

[00:22:43] if I'm about construction, I'm coming for a magnet, construction magnet, I have a billion dollar portfolio. Building a hundred million dollar doesn't really affect me. It's the same concept. My portfolio dictates that based on my research on my studying, this game deserves a million or half a million

[00:22:56] or a hundred thousand or maybe a 10,000 or a million. Oh really? So it's all money management too, right? But obviously I'm, I don't wanna say arrogant, but I'm a genius marketer, right? So I know how to market this so that it helps my brand grow, right?

[00:23:09] And I show wins and I show losses. And I've just, last year was my biggest year ever and I love the industry itself. I love like this year's Super Bowl was insane. I went to the Vegas for the Super Bowl and the lineups and the bedding

[00:23:21] and there's bedding windows and everyone's talking about the spread and the total and all this shit. I love the way the industry's going so I know it's gonna be a part of my life forever. Wow. Yeah, sports betting. And the portfolio in which you speak of,

[00:23:33] is this a portfolio that's your money that you're betting on games and you're growing or is there another vertical on it that you advise other sports betters as well? And they could sign up for a program or a community that they belong to

[00:23:48] where you have your picks in there and stuff? Like is that what you mean by portfolio or is it just you smashing games? I'm only talking about my bets. Wow. I actually pay people for information. I pay sources, I pay handicaps, I pay whatever.

[00:24:01] I could be consulted if I wanted to be but... So you don't monetize on that end? No, you know what? To be honest with you, the market's not big enough. Like if you're betting a million on a game even if you sell 1000, 2000, 5000 packages like... Right. Sorry.

[00:24:14] Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it. The market is saturated and not big enough. I know all these guys that but some of them have good information. So I use it when I can but... I don't know, I'm just talking about my betting.

[00:24:22] Now a lot of my friends, a lot of my big, you know, base year guys that I discussed have a lot of money that have offered me. Let me give you the money to manage and this and that. It's easy to lose your own money. It's hard to...

[00:24:36] Lose someone else's. If I don't need it, which I don't financially thank God, I don't need it. Why even take on the stress of... Got it, got it. That's my answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it could trip you all because it's not your money anymore.

[00:24:52] So you have a different perspective in what you're looking at it because you don't wanna ruin this relationship but then as you're tripping, you make the wrong pick. And it'll... Yeah, fuck wow. It test, I'm tested mentally. So I can take a million dollars loss, no problem.

[00:25:04] I can take any loss, no problem because I know it's a part of my system, right? And I have a lot of profit thank God to show for it. I'm not chasing. So how much will you bet over the course of a year?

[00:25:14] Like how much action do you put through? My handle is insane. Like a billion dollars handle. Like handle, like repeat it over. On a Saturday I'll bet 10 million over, repeat it over. You know what I mean? Shoot 10 million on a Saturday. Like just you get about 100,000, 100 times

[00:25:28] for example or a million dollars time. Whatever the case may be. My handle is in the billions but obviously... And this is done through online sites or booklets? Yeah, no online sites. No booklets. I don't use booklets. I mean they had their day.

[00:25:38] I love them all, they're all great to me. I had a lot of, I could tell you some good stories some bad stories too about them but it's just easier... To scale now online and the regulations. And thank God I hope they don't touch it

[00:25:51] but so far it's tax-free in Canada. Like lottery in general is tax-free. You win the lottery here. It's not a power ball, half a billion but it's 30 million but it's tax-free. So hopefully it's true to Osteo. We don't need you to tax our money. Please. He's coming.

[00:26:03] He's coming for it but please just keep it. Chill for a bit. I really don't... The government always wonders like... The government always asks me like what do you do? I say I bet on sports. Okay, what does that mean? I'll have a couple of real estate properties

[00:26:16] in there but like... And then you don't show income and everyone wants to know what the fuck you're doing and how do you have all this money? Well I'm not dealing drugs. I don't do drugs. I thought that openly and honestly. And I just, yeah, it's just...

[00:26:28] Thank God, cash is king in my world I guess. I don't know. You're probably not happy about that but I'll give you a mortgage or two. Oh it's all good. Yeah, right now. Yeah I know. Sports betting is special. It's great. It's awesome.

[00:26:39] Everyone should do it in some respect. Wow. Everyone should do it in some respect. You ever watch a game with no money on it? And then you ever watch a game with a couple bucks on it? Yeah, sure yeah. Two different fucking ball games.

[00:26:50] It's just, trust me, it's no longer entertainment for you. It's all work. I never looked at a game entertainment-wise. Yeah. Like in Super Bowl I was there and watching this game happen I had the under 47 and a half. What'd you bet on that? I mean we're up there.

[00:27:03] We're up there. That was a little bit in Vegas. Little bit in the... So did you win? Did it go under? So it landed on 47 in overtime. Oh you won. One by half. Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So unfortunately I was with... Unfortunately... I'm half a point.

[00:27:15] Unfortunately I was with a couple of Niner fans. Oh yeah. So they were sour. They were really sour. So I was ready to get absolutely fucked up and they just weren't happy. They weren't having it. One guy actually left early, he left that night,

[00:27:28] he changed his flight, another guy stayed till the morning and then went home. Tough. I'm a little guy too so I didn't go out. I didn't sell it. Even though the pocket book was nice but yeah. Sports betting is good. Everyone should dabble in it a bit.

[00:27:40] Nice, cool. Different perspective for sure. Now what is it that, so no full time job other than managing the sports book which is a full time job let's say. So an entrepreneur in that space building out your personal brand, right? Now really putting yourself out there, right?

[00:27:57] Whatever you're doing, like I said a little earlier it's working. It's been a year from you when you've come from a private account to putting yourselves out there. You've been with guys like Little Moe, you sat down with guys like Baca, you're in with the NBA boys.

[00:28:11] The list goes on in regards to your hyper local influence. Now do you look to grow that internationally? Do you look to move into other markets in the world and dabble in building businesses there or building your personal brand there? Is that a part of the plan

[00:28:28] or is it you want to stick to Toronto as your playground as you said and your Mademoiselle Mondays and your millions of dollars that you're making on the sports betting? Like really why would one one anything more than what you have right now?

[00:28:42] It sounds like a little dream world you're living in. What if you do I'd love to understand what that vision is and what you're gonna do to get there because a guy like you is gonna do it, right? So that's exciting to see.

[00:28:53] So one thing I wanna say is I wanna shout out Toronto because it's such a metropolitan city that sometimes you don't have to go anywhere and you feel like you're in the center of the world, right? Tiff or like when we had all started

[00:29:05] we can hear NHL and I'm in a box with Gretzky and Kibokuddin Jr. I'm doing shots with these random I'm calling everyone uncle and I have that what's that moment that catch me moment whatever they call it like that moment

[00:29:17] where I look around I'm like is this life? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know you grew up watching these guys and idolizing these guys and these are big celebrities and I'm just a small guy from Mississauga that's on sports and you know what I mean?

[00:29:28] So I have that moment where I'm like is this real life and is this where I built myself too or is it go, I don't know Nick the answer where it's gonna go. I don't wanna say, you know it's actually funny

[00:29:42] eight years ago this producer came over to my family house and he's like I wanna make you guys like the Kardashians. He's like, I'm one of three boys. My dad and my mom are all my mom tells me to f off and she's in the kitchen cooking shit

[00:29:55] like we just we have such a dynamic like if you put cameras on as we'd be the Kardashians times 100 like we all it's just it's a crazy thing. So I just always was that I'm a family boy I'm a family guy.

[00:30:08] I have caught with my grandmother every day like I see my brother's much one of my brothers lives in Florida one of my brothers lives in Richmond L here and I'm just a family guy at heart. So I don't think that it's so grand

[00:30:18] but when I go out and when I sit with these guys and I go and Toronto like from my condo to there Canada center to the club it's all like five five minute radius, right? And you get out there

[00:30:27] and you never know who you're gonna end up with or who you're gonna be with and so to answer your question I do think it's gonna go international, right? Lil Moe, you are in New York you film with Times Square I'm going back to film another one

[00:30:39] I'm going to Miami to film one like it's going to go international because the power of social media and the power of our phones and everything so it's inherently gonna go right? Like I get messages, I don't know if you do

[00:30:48] but I get a message from all over the world like I love this pod where are you from this and that kind of whatever so without even trying it's already is international it's gonna keep going but Toronto is such I love home

[00:31:00] I love man there's so much to do every night of the week whether you want to party or you want to this or you want to that there's something to do every day there's always from the sports to the nightlife, to the events there's always something going on

[00:31:13] and it's just such a you know we had a bit of issues with crime you know not too long ago but I think that's kind of sorted itself out and I think the city's safe and it's new places are popping up every day

[00:31:25] and I just I love home I love Toronto cool and so I go to the same places every year and people get mad at me about that I go to Vegas, I go to New York I go back home to Lebanon

[00:31:35] you know I don't really go to Europe I don't go to Australia, I don't go to Asia everyone's like you gotta see the world I'm like I go where I know you know I go to Vegas to pick me up on the rolls

[00:31:43] I go to the winnest either all week I come home it's a little playground just like Toronto is my little playground so I don't really desire to do much more than what I know works and my life is as you know what I know

[00:31:53] it's going great so I don't if it ain't broke don't fix it kind of is that my vibe right that's my vibe and like I came from and my dad was in sales sold vacuums door to door so my dad did okay

[00:32:07] and when his dad died he needed to make a buck so he was gonna be a pilot my dad thank god he never was no offense to pilots but my dad made a lot more money than pilots like he just became a master salesman didn't speak the language

[00:32:18] you know did all the direct door to door sales shit that you hear about that was my fault mustache slick back black hair don't ask me why I don't have any I don't know but he's just my dad came from the gutter and just built made it

[00:32:32] he just made it and I did the same I didn't he never wanted me in his business because you knew direct sales was going out the door so I just carved out my own niche and I always was good at making money I did everything multi-level marketing

[00:32:44] door to door so I did all that in some respect right until I found kind of what I loved right which I made a lot of money sports betting I parlayed that into some good real estate investments which are now cash flow kings

[00:32:58] cash flow great a lot of cash flow so between the betting and the real estate investments I don't have to work a day on my life right but I also want more I'm not settling on my laurels I want more I always want more

[00:33:11] millions on enough 10 nights out of I'm like knocking at the door every day for another goal right the same with the pod right the pod had 100 views not as a thousand out as 10,000 20,000 every day I'm like let's keep going for more young single yeah

[00:33:27] I don't know when this airs but and like both of those are made with kids now living very like comfortable good lives they did their own thing but you know having a family you know this and a relationship changes the whole thing yeah

[00:33:42] take the time for the wife take time for the kid if he did get much sleep etc etc and I'm now living that like dream life where I go to bed when I want to wake up when I want to work when I want

[00:33:52] and that's probably why my brand is is where it is because I'm just dedicating whatever you call me it's too proud you know I love that life where it's like I can do whatever I want whenever I want

[00:34:01] I'm not slave to a boss or do a work or do a job or anything it's very powerful people don't think don't see how much I work I work yeah I work like super fucking hard but I don't sleep much

[00:34:10] right because between the partying and the working and the entertaining and the podcasting there's not much time to sleep seeing your family all that too right there's 25 hours in a day

[00:34:19] right and everyone a lot of people say oh I need eight hours and I gotta be up for work this is and I said okay fine no problem go whatever I'll sleep two hours a day an hour a day because I gotta get up and film

[00:34:28] I gotta get up and work study the games whatever I'm a big believer Shadow gay Brecca and my hydrogen water and the bionic human I'm a big believer that our bodies so this this water is regular water but it's pumped with hydrogen right so when you dehydrate it

[00:34:42] the drinking you wake up to hydrate it that's because you're lacking hydration this pumps hydrogen into the water boom you become the bionic human whether it works or not don't don't ask me but like I've never needed sleep I never like sleep I don't believe in the week

[00:34:55] the week mindset this is how my dad was my dad was back against the wall no money father died banks are calling everyone's calling we need money this and that I believe the human body is so powerful the mind is so powerful

[00:35:07] not like if you believe you're weak then you're if you believe you're strong you're strong that's how I think like you know you're gonna die when they're all gonna die 70 80 90 whatever we're all gonna die one day

[00:35:16] right we'll death is right staring a lot of people are scared to die but they don't live because they're scared to die they don't live they don't live their true life because they're scared to die

[00:35:24] I think that's the biggest thing that I know about my brand now my podcast is the messages I get from people that are struggling that are struggling with depression and anxiety and money and all these day to day things that people struggle with

[00:35:37] and to see and to hear and to read the messages from people that say you make me smile your story I'll tell you the real over here I'll tell you the real but when I had no money when I had tons of debt

[00:35:49] when I my dad said what your piece of shit leave because you're using his credit cards to bet the bet and to gamble with I go out to all this shit I went through all this shit

[00:35:57] I went to depression I went through like am I like you know it's even suicidal but like when does it end when does it get better who do I have to ask for money who do I go after go ask for help

[00:36:07] so they see me now and they're like this guy has it all figured out they did it all my own and I had to fail to feel this that I feel right now I had to fail yeah of course failing built me made me tough

[00:36:20] they made me losing the people that like my grandfather was my guy some every day one day he was gone said body made dinner massive heart attack that was the toughest day of my life that and failing and all those things that just being out there and being

[00:36:35] you got experience life that the people that are comfortable I'm rambling on I apologize no no no the people that are comfortable yeah that that want to Netflix and chill and stay in their bed and go to work and come home that's where the that's where the great

[00:36:47] goes to die that's where greatness and success goes to die is comfort zone as soon as you step out of it which is now what I have I was comfortable in private social media and making my money and no one really knowing who I was but

[00:36:59] I had my friends was comfortable but everyone came up to me and told me you gotta be out there your that your personality your voice your brand your you gotta be out there you gotta do a podcast reality show people

[00:37:09] I always said that people brought it to me the people said you gotta do something a podcast or something and so having heard the people say that and I never expected to have even this success that I'm having I know it's gonna keep going I just know because

[00:37:24] you know doing and I'm having fun but I got out of my comfort zone even showing my bets you know the reality is if I make a certain amount of money the sports will tell me you're cut off

[00:37:33] but now the draft kings will call me when I make a big bet and they'll say can we put your shirt on social media can we put your bed on social media they'll ask me to advertise why because it's good for their business it's another reason why

[00:37:44] industries change right they used to cut you off and not want to be public about what you're betting or even though I'm a winner I win I profit now it's like this is the world where social media and content is the new currency it's more powerful than

[00:37:56] being hunkered down and being silent and this and that like so I don't turn a soprano and and the sopranos where everything was kind of you know this and that and I know that's still part of our life but nowadays you can't be secretive

[00:38:08] you can't be you can't be comfortable you can't be on the low you can't it's impossible it just doesn't work you gotta be out there you gotta go for it right it's it's it's just the world we live in today so

[00:38:18] everyone out there I say my advice is don't be afraid to fail don't be afraid to go for it it's so easy to fail it's you just quit you pack up and you go home and you know whatever right my dad always wanted me to get married at 33

[00:38:34] he got married at 33 all my brothers got married at 33 I told him I said I promise you I'll get married at 33 this was three years ago and then this whole thing happened this whole brand this whole parka everything this whole and he sees it he tells me

[00:38:47] he's getting calls from Egypt and Lebanon and everyone's calling him like your son is insane and he's like I told him I said dad I gotta talk to you I said I'm down I think my life has shifted a bit

[00:38:57] he's like what do you mean I'm like well I don't know if 33 is realistic anymore he goes why I go well honestly dad you know my life is very fast now I don't know if I can even handle a girl or a wife or kids

[00:39:09] I said I'm my goals have shifted I want a nice million dollar home and I drive a nice car and that's it now I want a mansion and I want to be on Times Square my face on Times Square

[00:39:21] and I want to be the biggest celebrity in the world he's like are you serious I'm like yeah I'm like you'll be a grandfather one day he's already as a grandfather but I'll make you a grandfather I said dad my life has changed it's gotta be different

[00:39:33] you gotta adapt right just like everyone adapted with COVID you gotta adapt and adjust right ask more questions what's up running time now I love it so now what I find very interesting too is the way that you associate yourself with these celebrity figures right and not only

[00:39:57] growing your brand and wanting to be one one day right and you're on your way there and becoming more and more well known not only in the city but like you said internationally how is it that you've affiliated yourself with these stars, these celebrities

[00:40:11] these people with big names big social media followings how do you get in a room with them how are you in that box doing shots with Cuban good engineer what takes you there great question great F in question I don't want to curse you seem very proper

[00:40:29] I've never been starstruck I don't get starstruck and I'm very good I'm very good with celebrity faces people walking by I'm very good at pointing them out but I never stop and ask them for pictures I think what it is you were in hospitality

[00:40:47] I'm sure you hosted a lot of the biggest guys and the reality is they're just another person they might be outside the public world bigger and more money but they're just another person so when you get to that position many times I'd be in this booth

[00:41:03] and I'd be right next to me all star weekend for the NBA was insane I knew all the club owners I knew them all I go out the regular weeks so when the celebrities come in it's all star weekend I still get my treatment

[00:41:19] but next to you is this guy but I never really got starstruck because the reality is in Toronto, in a metropolitan city any night any night I'm a celebrity it's cool but it doesn't really matter because next night it'll be Drake and next night it'll be Wayne Gretzky

[00:41:43] so I think when they call it crazy it's like an energy when they feel that you're not trying to take a picture with them you're just doing your own thing which is always what I always do us I've never been in a fight in Toronto

[00:42:03] never gone to a fight in Toronto never caused a ruckus never in my life because I go there and have a good time so the club owners know that the celebrities, the athletes now that's just the club scene having built my brand

[00:42:19] I've gotten a lot of great connections and I think these guys are celebrities but they're real people too I've never paid anybody to be on my pod I don't go and pay them for this time or that time let's chop it up like men

[00:42:35] and now we just face time and make fun of each other he's become a friend of mine chopped it up with Baka you wouldn't believe drops next week like and subscribe but you wouldn't believe what kind of person he is what he did in the can

[00:42:51] how he got charged you talk to these people they're real people they love your energy through my own personal social media and how I was raised the right way I'm a real one I'm not just trying to get them for their star or status

[00:43:09] you said the all-star weekend so I had no plans to go to an all-star I'm not a big hockey guy I love the Leafs shout out Leafs this is the year it's the year hopefully I truly believe that too sorry we won't go off Austin's doing crazy things

[00:43:29] you never know eventually it's got to happen a lot of averages it has to happen so I wasn't planning to go Friday night someone calls me at 6.30 30 minutes for the all-star skills part of the network part of the branding people just whatever same thing Saturday 3.30 in the afternoon

[00:43:55] I don't know if you know Joey T he calls me I'm like I know that's arrogant I don't want to sound like an asshole people who died to go to this thing I just got invited half the stadium is booked out for corporate

[00:44:11] you look at something like that and I say look how much business you bring to Mademoiselle and how awesome you've been to them I think that's what that goes back to and not only that but you're a funny guy you're entertaining like if I'm gonna hang

[00:44:25] I'm gonna hang with Cristal and not only is he deserving of this extra ticket that I got but I'm gonna have a good time with him too it's not even about your passion in the game it's just you as a person and someone who has that ticket

[00:44:39] so I I don't ask where we're sitting I'm honored to go with you what do I know it's not even Joe I'm like go sit with my nephew I'm like alright fuck it so I go sit with his nephew for a period or something and he calls me

[00:44:59] and he's like come up to the box I'm like who's box I'm like alright so I go up I'm in the slugs resuits then I see Wayne Wayne was on acid I was looking I had a couple too many drinks he was insane

[00:45:19] let me go end up in short club with Drake and Wayne and all these famous old NHL players at 430 I'm twisted seeing like three different things because I had so many shots I couldn't see and then we go back into the box

[00:45:29] all start weekend I bet 100 grand on the game Cuba Gooding Jr. looks at me I didn't know how the all start game worked by the way it's Team Matthews against Team This I just look at my betting app I see Team Matthews I'm like I'm hammered

[00:45:43] I go I bet 100 grand on Team Matthews he goes are you crazy he goes give me your phone he sees it he goes holy shit people are sitting in the front row in the suite he goes you two out he kicks the people out

[00:45:57] me and Cuba go sit in the front row didn't take his eyes off the game because he was watching for you he was watching for me I was like give me the show me the money I can't wait they ended up winning that one

[00:46:11] he was hammered with me as soon as you come to my night call me I got his number and do the pod with him by 6 o'clock I was twisted here's what's so special about Crystal I talk in the third person at 6.30 I leave the stadium I am flying

[00:46:27] this is probably not the best story to tell but I'm flying but I know what I'm doing my mom calls she goes where are you I just finished the all start game Gratski Cuba she goes no come to Zoros yeah of course legendary

[00:46:47] my grandfather went up during the opening in 1973-74 he was there for the opening my grandfather taught my dad it's our family steakhouse I know John and Nick and those guys for years they were like family to me and I love their food portions are like this

[00:47:05] not to get too off topic Saturday night hard of the action all start weekend I go who's going we're actually meeting family friends I said honestly mom like probably shouldn't drive I shouldn't leave the city really I'm having a great time with these guys no my dad called

[00:47:23] my dad got on the phone and said come to dinner so I get in the car and I go to dinner thank god they are fun parents we drank, we partied with John and everyone at Zoros and then I said guys at 10.30 paid the bill

[00:47:37] got out of there that's the difference I think between me and everyone else I ended up going back down town I had a great night but it's those three or four hours this can go into our next topic family is everything family is everything doesn't matter what celebrity

[00:47:59] or what excuse my language pussy or dick or whatever the fuck don't ever forget your family it is literally the lifeline when everyone fails you friends inevitably and women and men and family will always be there so at my peak litness when my mom or dad calls

[00:48:17] or when everything anything doesn't matter probably wasn't the smartest thing to do to drive probably wasn't the smartest life decision because I probably could have met someone but those three or four hours and those hours I spent with my family I was like the one's the saw gun

[00:48:33] chop it up with them my dad or every week, three hours family is everything my brothers, my grandmother still living my aunts, my uncles everyone it trumps everything more than any dollar family is the key to life for everyone that doesn't have one sometimes friends become family

[00:48:53] your parents pass whatever this thing family not just blood people, friends that you call family but Toronto it's just like a big family for me it's just like a big family Toronto before I sit down Nick when I walk in there I do 30 minutes of schmoozing

[00:49:11] I go to the manager the coach, the girls they're my family I don't ever book a table there's a table there waiting for every week because they know I'm coming I'm not in the city whatever but it's like my extended family my culture is on display and money

[00:49:31] family beautiful way to put a nice little bull tie family is everything as much parting as you do as much business as you do and gambling as much as you're well known out there on an international scale as much as you got going on

[00:49:51] you're still at your core value the family and having it be that it trumps all is very special you can feel that you can this guy's got a good moral compass he's out there he's wild they're good guys they win not only do they win

[00:50:16] but they usually have a solid core family so that's awesome very inspirational story I think that for all the audience watching this episode definitely make sure to follow this gentleman he's just exciting I look forward to when I see his story what's your famous series I always ask

[00:50:40] honestly dude I like everything my favorite are the podcasts and how you just raw last episode and like sometimes it's funny sometimes it's emotional sometimes it's awkward but what's so awesome about it is it's raw it's real you know what I mean it's authentic he just asked that

[00:51:10] and he put that guy in that position and he said that and tears came out of it you know what I mean that's the shit that people it's very easy to have the lights camera you know action thing and everyone takes the stage and starts talking but

[00:51:29] it's hard to be real it's hard to be authentic but when one is authentic it just fucking you could smell it from a mile away and I appreciate it right because we all have skeletons in the closet we all have insecurities

[00:51:45] we all have things in which we're not proud of we all have we all steer away and kind of put in a shadow things that we're not too proud of but when you hear it right and you can relate to it

[00:51:59] because we're all human at the end of the day it's beautiful because it doesn't make you feel so guilty it doesn't make it to be that you have so much shame for those things it's just like you know what man we're spiritual beings having a human experience

[00:52:17] and that guy's as much as a fucking character as I am and has as many good things and bad things going for him and I respect that you know and you get that out of your guests and you're real bro I think too often

[00:52:35] my last episode with Anthony we talked about being canceled and doing the right thing is sometimes wrong in society today I just think I think I'm blessed because I'm not I don't have to answer anybody I don't have a production company that tells me

[00:52:51] where to steer my podcast or a person like a boss that will fire me because I say a certain thing now that's a gift because I'm unfiltered the way I see things and so I can direct my narrative as I want to

[00:53:07] and I think that's what a lot of people don't have that you know gift which I did it myself and I want people to feel that I do bro that's what I think I'm doing well go to the beat of the drum that you got going on

[00:53:21] right now I don't want to get canceled no you're not gonna get canceled I'm not gonna have to watch this back again I'll take it back to that point when I said like you can tell you got a good moral compass but you tread the fine line

[00:53:37] but you know when to cut it off you know when to like okay you keep it you got to go on trust me whether it's happening subconsciously you're playing it good so keep up the good work I think honesty let's wrap it up here

[00:53:55] but I think honesty and transparency it just shakes the boat because not many people are like raw this is the real if I don't like you I will tell you we might laugh about it but I'll just be like I don't like I'll love you

[00:54:11] I go up to a girl and say I want to you and they'll hear it interesting men don't do that I'm like this is just what I think sometimes I have no filter so my brain and my mouth right away sometimes it doesn't work

[00:54:29] most of the times it does I'm real I'm raw I'm honest you're a legend by the way how much you pay for that smile I'm a great brother God bless me with it what you're doing here we're in the podcast room of spark financial the core company culture

[00:54:49] as soon as I walked in the whole thing I'm not leaving I want my I'm not leaving moment but the whole culture I liked how the boffers are not everyone can be part of everyone I love that company culture

[00:55:05] I'm not going to drop it up with you randomly when I'm at Woodbridge Vaughn I might just shoot the shit you probably get rid of me soon because I'll just come over every day what you're doing here is special you used to be in hospitality and nightlife

[00:55:21] it ate you up and spit you out hasn't done that for me yet but maybe one day I don't know I'll get bored on family eventually I want what you're doing now I'm not bored about you I had a death in the family this week

[00:55:37] not to harp on it but I need a little break sure take my mind off it shoot the shit this really helped me so I thank you you're a legend we'll get a cough and shoot the shit hopefully it's heirs absolutely between two legends

[00:56:03] tell the audience a little bit more where they can follow along the journey you got a podcast, media handle so personal brand, Leb Prophet I'm kind of the king of Instagram and I love showing my daily life I love showing who I am raw unedited

[00:56:19] the more produced version you'll find me on Z-Bodcast we released episodes weekly sometimes on Mondays, sometimes Wednesdays we kind of fill it out with our audience we're on every social Apple Spotify, YouTube my podcast is more of a visual podcast so you definitely want to watch it

[00:56:37] but follow us Leb Prophet Z-Bodcast it's wild it's entertaining like Nick said it's different and reach out to me I'm very accessible I'm very quick I'm always on my phone I'm a big brother shout out Steve Jobs and Apple so just hit me up

[00:57:03] I love to hear from people no one reads my shit even if it's 1000 DMs I don't have an assistant make sure you're hot shout out Mo that's it thank you again for tuning in what would it cost I had an absolute laugh and good time over here

[00:57:25] thank you